I got a message from an Ambassador Joseph Ghougassian, which in response to Markar Melkonian’s original message he sent out in regards to the deployment of Armenian troops being sent out to Iraq. Though the message for me was a bit difficult to understand, I took the advice of the Ambassador when I asked for clarification and he said “You will find the answers if you asked your questions to Google or Yahoo search engines.” I did just as the Ambassador suggested and got the answer I was looking for. Oh and for those that think USG stands for Untied States Gypsum, it does not. Keep in mind when choosing which hits the search engine gives you, that Iraq has oil, sand and terrorist. BTW, for those of you who don’t feel like running a search for USG, it an abbreviation for US Department of State. Oh and for those that were a bit confused by "Arabian Gulf Consultants", and the “ian” at the end of the Ambassador’s name, he is not from some Gulf state, or an ambassador for some Middle-Eastern country, as I would guess, he is an ambassador for the USG (United States Government). For those of you that feel the need to write to the ambassador, do so, as he seems to be open to discussion on this issue. His e-mail address is arabgulf@ix.netcom.com.
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 10:54:26 -0800
From: "Arabian Gulf Consultants" arabgulf@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: Oppose Armenian Deployment to Iraq.
To:ara_manoogian@yahoo.com
CC:amembusadm@msn.com, info@armeniaforeignministry.com

CC: VARTAN OSKANIAN (FONMIN. ARMENIA)
I DISAGREE WITH YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE SITUATION, VIEWS AND POLITICAL POSITIONS ON THE MATTER OF THE DEPLOYMENT OF ARMANIAN TROOPS TO IRAQ.
I AM BACK FROM IRAQ WHERE I SPENT 18 MONTHS AS SES ADVISOR IN CPA/DOD IN THE MINISTRY OF HIGHER EDUCATION.
IF ARMENIA IS TO RECEIVE ALL SORTS OF BENEFITS FROM THE USG FROM POLITICAL TO ECONOMIC, MILITARY/STRATIGIC ASSISTANCE, IT BETTER SIDE WITH THE USG FOREIGN POLICY IN IRAQ AND THE MIDDLE EAST.
ALSO, I BELIEVE THAT IRAQ WILL BE UP AND RUNNING AS A POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC POWER HOUSE IN THE REGION IN THE SPACE OF 2 YEARS.
I WAS TOLD BY SEVERAL SENIOR IRAQI OFFICIALS: "WE WILL REMEMBER WHO WERE OUR FRIENDS DURING OUR TIMES OF DIFFICULTIES."
NOW THAT PRESIDENT BUSH HAS WON BOTH THE POPULAR AND LECTORAL VOTES OF THE AMERICANS, YOU CAN REST ASSURED THAT WITH THE JOINT PARTICIPATION OF THE IRAQIS, WE WILL CLEAN UP IRAQ OF FOREIGN INSURGENTS, TERRORISTS AND REMNANT SADDAM'S LOYALISTS.
A STRONG IRAQ IS GOOD FOR ARMENIA.
Ambassador Joseph Ghougassian
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Markar wrote a response to Mr. Ghougassian:
From: MMelkoni@aol.com
To: arabgulf@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:43 AM
Subject: Credibility problem.
Dear Mr. Ghougassian,
I recall very clearly my father returning from a visit to Vietnam in 1974 and repeating to me what an American general there had told him: America and its allies in Vietnam had won the war, and it was just a matter of time before the last remnants of the "terrorists" and "foreign fighters" were mopped up. A year later, a tank flying the flag of the National Liberation Front crashed through the gate of the American embassy. Your report reminds me of what that general told my father.
You wrote that "IRAQ WILL BE UP AND RUNNING AS A POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC POWER HOUSE IN THE REGION IN THE SPACE OF 2 YEARS." I'm going to go out on a limb here, sir: That will not happen. If this is what you were told, then I'm afraid I have even less confidence in your judgment.
Armenia most certainly must NOT side with U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. It is a policy that failed in Iran and failed in Lebanon, and it will fail in Iraq, too. (It is also a policy that is enormously unjust. But then as an ambassador, I suspect that the word "justice" and its cognates make you want to laugh.)
You wrote that "Senior Iraqi Officials" will remember who were their friends during times of difficulty. Well so will the Iraqi resistance.
Armenians have already given their lives in the war against terrorism. They gave their lives in the Soviet Army, fighting against the very same embryonic Taliban and Islamist fanatics whom George W. Bush's father had armed, trained, and coddled with my tax money. Back then, the Soviets called Osama Bin Laden and his followers "terrorists," but Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and the ambassadors were calling them "Freedom Fighters." You have a credibility problem here.
If Canada and Mexico can excuse themselves from the Coalition of the Willing, then
Armenia certainly can. (And by the way: I haven't seen Israel listed on any of the rosters of Coalition Partners. Why is that?)
More than anything--more than your logical incoherence, your far-fetched prognostications, and your poor judgment--what bothers me most about your message is how lightly you pass over the threats that Iraqi Armenians face, and the long-term threat of political isolation facing the Republic of Armenia. We don't need any more Americans crying for slaughtered Armenians. We've had more than our share of that already, thank you.
Sincerely,
Markar Melkonian
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Mr. Ghougassian “responded” with:
From: "Arabian Gulf Consultants"
To: MMelkoni@aol.com
Sent: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:10:39 -0800
Subject: Re: Credibility problem.
Thank you for your response.
Now I understand your true color.
You must be a Kerry supporter.
No matter what facts you are told, you will continue with your obstinate color blind judgement.
Amb. Joseph Ghougassian
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 10:54:26 -0800
From: "Arabian Gulf Consultants" arabgulf@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: Oppose Armenian Deployment to Iraq.
To:ara_manoogian@yahoo.com
CC:amembusadm@msn.com, info@armeniaforeignministry.com

CC: VARTAN OSKANIAN (FONMIN. ARMENIA)
I DISAGREE WITH YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE SITUATION, VIEWS AND POLITICAL POSITIONS ON THE MATTER OF THE DEPLOYMENT OF ARMANIAN TROOPS TO IRAQ.
I AM BACK FROM IRAQ WHERE I SPENT 18 MONTHS AS SES ADVISOR IN CPA/DOD IN THE MINISTRY OF HIGHER EDUCATION.
IF ARMENIA IS TO RECEIVE ALL SORTS OF BENEFITS FROM THE USG FROM POLITICAL TO ECONOMIC, MILITARY/STRATIGIC ASSISTANCE, IT BETTER SIDE WITH THE USG FOREIGN POLICY IN IRAQ AND THE MIDDLE EAST.
ALSO, I BELIEVE THAT IRAQ WILL BE UP AND RUNNING AS A POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC POWER HOUSE IN THE REGION IN THE SPACE OF 2 YEARS.
I WAS TOLD BY SEVERAL SENIOR IRAQI OFFICIALS: "WE WILL REMEMBER WHO WERE OUR FRIENDS DURING OUR TIMES OF DIFFICULTIES."
NOW THAT PRESIDENT BUSH HAS WON BOTH THE POPULAR AND LECTORAL VOTES OF THE AMERICANS, YOU CAN REST ASSURED THAT WITH THE JOINT PARTICIPATION OF THE IRAQIS, WE WILL CLEAN UP IRAQ OF FOREIGN INSURGENTS, TERRORISTS AND REMNANT SADDAM'S LOYALISTS.
A STRONG IRAQ IS GOOD FOR ARMENIA.
Ambassador Joseph Ghougassian
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Markar wrote a response to Mr. Ghougassian:
From: MMelkoni@aol.com
To: arabgulf@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:43 AM
Subject: Credibility problem.
Dear Mr. Ghougassian,
I recall very clearly my father returning from a visit to Vietnam in 1974 and repeating to me what an American general there had told him: America and its allies in Vietnam had won the war, and it was just a matter of time before the last remnants of the "terrorists" and "foreign fighters" were mopped up. A year later, a tank flying the flag of the National Liberation Front crashed through the gate of the American embassy. Your report reminds me of what that general told my father.
You wrote that "IRAQ WILL BE UP AND RUNNING AS A POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC POWER HOUSE IN THE REGION IN THE SPACE OF 2 YEARS." I'm going to go out on a limb here, sir: That will not happen. If this is what you were told, then I'm afraid I have even less confidence in your judgment.
Armenia most certainly must NOT side with U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. It is a policy that failed in Iran and failed in Lebanon, and it will fail in Iraq, too. (It is also a policy that is enormously unjust. But then as an ambassador, I suspect that the word "justice" and its cognates make you want to laugh.)
You wrote that "Senior Iraqi Officials" will remember who were their friends during times of difficulty. Well so will the Iraqi resistance.
Armenians have already given their lives in the war against terrorism. They gave their lives in the Soviet Army, fighting against the very same embryonic Taliban and Islamist fanatics whom George W. Bush's father had armed, trained, and coddled with my tax money. Back then, the Soviets called Osama Bin Laden and his followers "terrorists," but Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and the ambassadors were calling them "Freedom Fighters." You have a credibility problem here.
If Canada and Mexico can excuse themselves from the Coalition of the Willing, then
Armenia certainly can. (And by the way: I haven't seen Israel listed on any of the rosters of Coalition Partners. Why is that?)
More than anything--more than your logical incoherence, your far-fetched prognostications, and your poor judgment--what bothers me most about your message is how lightly you pass over the threats that Iraqi Armenians face, and the long-term threat of political isolation facing the Republic of Armenia. We don't need any more Americans crying for slaughtered Armenians. We've had more than our share of that already, thank you.
Sincerely,
Markar Melkonian
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Mr. Ghougassian “responded” with:
From: "Arabian Gulf Consultants"
To: MMelkoni@aol.com
Sent: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:10:39 -0800
Subject: Re: Credibility problem.
Thank you for your response.
Now I understand your true color.
You must be a Kerry supporter.
No matter what facts you are told, you will continue with your obstinate color blind judgement.
Amb. Joseph Ghougassian
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