Some Armenians don’t want to be labeled Anti-Semitic and may fear to learn the truth

In the recent conflict between the Armenian community of Boston and the ADL, quite a bit of debating has taken place on the internet. One particular site that caught my attention is www.jewcy.com, which had a number of articles and comments regarding the ADL and their lack of seeing the Genocide for what it is.

We know what transpired and the final outcome of the ADL’s positive position on what happened in 1915 as being Genocide is great news. What is not so great is that I learned from the Armenians who posted comments on www.jewcy.com were not interested in exploring the possible real powers behind the Armenian Genocide or in the case of one comment went so far as to justify that what the Young Turks did was almost forgivable since some Armenians supported them up until 1913.

The following are the comments from www.jewcy.com for your review and for archival purposes. Your comments are welcome, as I really do need to get an idea as to if researching this avenue in our readers opinion is Anti-Semitic or the right thing to do.

Comments from http://jewcy.com/feature/2007-07-09/fire_foxman:

One reason why the ADL can not support anything in favor of the Armenian Genocide could have to do with the fact that those that ordered the Armenian Genocide could have been crypto-Jews. For more information this see: http://www.jewishracism.com/JewishGenocide.htm

Anonymous
08/20/07 1:41 am

To Anonymous

I condemn this website and its contents in the strongest possible terms.

Dany Beylerian
08/20/07 2:13 am

Recently, I was alerted to that website, and I started to read what this guy, Christopher Jon Bjerknes, wrote about the supposed connection between Jews and the Young Turk movement. You don't have to read long before you realize it's just an anti-Jewish tirade. It's poorly written, poorly reasoned, and it's so hate-filled that even if any of the alleged facts in the book were true, it's impossible to look past the hatred.

Anyway, I think others have written that some of the early leaders of the Young Turk movement were Jewish or secretly Jewish. I don't know whether or not it's true. But it really doesn't matter, since the Armenians themselves supported the Young Turk movement all the way up to about 1913, before they realized that the Young Turks had no interest in bringing justice and equality to all people of Turkey.

Phantom
08/20/07 2:34 am

Phantom wrote:

Anyway, I think others have written that some of the early leaders of the Young Turk movement were Jewish or secretly Jewish. I don't know whether or not it's true. But it really doesn't matter, since the Armenians themselves supported the Young Turk movement all the way up to about 1913, before they realized that the Young Turks had no interest in bringing justice and equality to all people of Turkey.

Your logic and rational to brush aside the Zionist connection to the Young Turks who the Armenian supported is the same as me befriending you and you not knowing I am a rapist. You introduce me to your sister Karine, who I naturally rape when I get the chance. With your logic, your family has no right to pursue me for my criminal act I committed against your sister since you supported me not knowing I was a rapist.

If it really does not matter who or what the Young Turks did since the Armenians themselves supported the movement, then what right do you have to expect recognition of the alleged Armenian genocide, since Talaat was the leader of the time directing the populous to kill the Armenians?

Don’t get me wrong, I believe there was a genocide, but I also believe that you have to understand who was behind it. The book found on http://www.jewishracism.com/JewishGenocide.htm may appear to be an ax to grind and full of haltered. If you look beyond that hate and read the source material, you can certainly draw your own conclusions, not to say that there is anything to find, but getting to the root of a problem, leaving no stone unturned and understanding what really happened is the best way to prevent the same from happening in the future.

It’s wonderful that the Armenians have chimed in with their objection to Christopher Jon Bjerknes book, “THE JEWISH GENOCIDE OF ARMENIAN CHRISTIANS.” It would be interesting what the non-Armenians think of it since it is written by a man who is of Jewish decent?

Anonymous
08/21/07 1:38 am

While Christopher Jon Bjerknes' contention that Jews were the secret force behind the Kemalist revolution is charming, I find his contention that Einstein stole his physics ideas to be much more compelling.

(As to Mr. Bjerknes' contention that his parents were Jewish, it would be more believable if they had not named him in honour of Jesus Christ. Personally, that's why I find that particular contention to be both boring and spurious, in the nature of his Jews-run-Turkey argument, and not nearly as entertaining as his Einstein-stole-my-physics one.)

Anonymous
08/21/07 1:41 pm

Bjerknes is nothing more than an anti-semitic hack much like David Irivng. He is wasting valuable oxygen that others could be breathing.

Looks like Foxman finally recognized that Armenian Genocide, albeit begrudgingly and under a lot of pressure from many inside the ADL. Still, I don't think us Armenians are going to give up our struggle to have the non-binding Congressional Resolution passed this year or next.

Joey, I can't thank you enough for all your support.

Joseph
08/21/07 2:23 pm

Anti-Semitic?

I have no idea as to Joseph’s age and education, but to deem Bjerknes writings as anti-Semitic without at least giving him some credit for unearthing facts of the Young Turks as Phantom has, should tell all of us that ignorance or fear of not knowing what will come of Bjerknes book drives the naysayers to downplay what those interested in real justice will further research to find the truth. I also believe that since oxygen is such a valuable commodity, the naysayers should practice holding their breaths.

If you don’t believe what you have read from Bjerknes book, get yourself a copy of John Kirakosyan’s the "Young Turks before the law court of history". It's a two volume document published in 1982 - 1983. Most university libraries have this publication, only problem is that you have to be able to read Armenian. There is an English translation titled “The Armenian Genocide: The Young Turks Before the Judgment of History”, which was published in 1992. You can get a copy from Amazon.com. I’m guessing that this is an abridged version of the original writing and will have to compare it to the original document to see if anything is missing. Of course if you didn’t like Bjerknes writings, then you will hate Kirakosyan’s books for the same reasons.

BTW, will there be any non-Armenians giving their opinion of what Bjerknes has written or can we all agree that he may be on to something?

Anonymous
08/22/07 1:31 am