Azat Artsakh---NKR
27-08-2003
According to the NKR prime minister Anoushavan Danielian, at present the government is occupied with implementation of the new program of assistance to families of killed azatamartiks. With its importance and range the program can be compared to the program of encouragement of birthrate. `We are hopeful that both with its importance in development of the economy and social importance it will have the same success as the program of stimulating birthrate,' said A. Danielian. According to the mentioned program it is anticipated to plant one hectare of vineyard for each families of killed or missing azatamartiks, which will become their property and source of income. The program is anticipated to be implemented through charity means. According to the prime minister, for each vineyard about 5 ` 6 thousand US dollars will be needed. For solving the questions of organization a special state committee will be established where families will also have their representative.
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Where do they come up with these ideas and what's with the $5,000 to $6,000 figure?
I spoke with a specialist today about the costs involved in starting a vineyard and the breakdown in cost.
For one hector of land you can plant a total of forty 100meter long rows with 67 vines in each row. This means 2680 vines.
Each cutting costs 50 to100 dram and when you plant to make sure all 2680 vines take, you plant 2 cuttings per hole.
To start a new vineyard, you have to first till the soil with a large tractor. That tractor cost 25,000 dram for this operation.
Then after the soil rests, you level the ground and this time with a standard plowing tractor, lightly plow. Then with a roller, you press the soil. This process can't cost more than 15,000 to 20,000 dram.
Then cement poles need to be planted and for one hector, 440 pole are needed. These cost us delivered 100 dram each. I know this, as I have been using these same cement poles for fencing poles.
Three levels of wire need to be strung on the pole. About 20,200 meters are needed at 10 dram a meter totaling 202,000 dram.
Then there is a device that pounds holes in the ground (like a jack-hammer) and on one truck, there are 4 of these hammers. In one day, 6 people work and can plant one hector. Cost of labor is 12,000 dram and rent for the truck maybe 10,000 dram (may be a little more, but not much more).
At this point, you have a one-hector vineyard that costs you about $1,500. Mind you this price does not include irrigation, but depending on where they decide to put these vineyards, if they do it right, they will pick a spot where there is already Artesian wells and electricity close by, in that case, it's just a matter of pumping the water and a couple hundred meters of pipe per vineyard, which I would guess were talking anther $500 per vineyard maximum (even this is a high figure).
Now if were talking the real price to be $2,00 per hector, then where does this $5,000 to $6,000 per hector come in? And if you understand the article, it's basically saying we are going to turn to the Diaspora for this money.
One other thing that I can't help but think about is right off the top of my head there are 3 families that don't have the health to work these vineyards themselves, which means they have to hire someone to do this and one thing the expert told me what that if the vineyards are not properly worked, you could get no crop at all.
I would guess that many who receive these vineyards will not wait a minute and turn around and sell them for a fraction of their real value.
As for the Prime Minister's comment of the importance of this program being the same as the stimulating birthrates program, if this program is suppose to have the same effect, then in the end it will do us more harm than good.
Why do I say that about the birthing program? Well you don't pay poor people to have more children in the real world. You give people jobs and economic opportunities so they can afford to have more children that later on will no become a burden to us.
In fact this vineyard program as far as I can see it is just another program that is designed for the people in government to pillage from the Diaspora and use the names of our martyred heroes to motivate the Diaspora to open their pockets up.
I would really like to see their financial figures that reflect $5,000 to $6,000 per hector and when I go to Stepanagert, will request them from the government so I can review them.
27-08-2003
According to the NKR prime minister Anoushavan Danielian, at present the government is occupied with implementation of the new program of assistance to families of killed azatamartiks. With its importance and range the program can be compared to the program of encouragement of birthrate. `We are hopeful that both with its importance in development of the economy and social importance it will have the same success as the program of stimulating birthrate,' said A. Danielian. According to the mentioned program it is anticipated to plant one hectare of vineyard for each families of killed or missing azatamartiks, which will become their property and source of income. The program is anticipated to be implemented through charity means. According to the prime minister, for each vineyard about 5 ` 6 thousand US dollars will be needed. For solving the questions of organization a special state committee will be established where families will also have their representative.
###
Where do they come up with these ideas and what's with the $5,000 to $6,000 figure?
I spoke with a specialist today about the costs involved in starting a vineyard and the breakdown in cost.
For one hector of land you can plant a total of forty 100meter long rows with 67 vines in each row. This means 2680 vines.
Each cutting costs 50 to100 dram and when you plant to make sure all 2680 vines take, you plant 2 cuttings per hole.
To start a new vineyard, you have to first till the soil with a large tractor. That tractor cost 25,000 dram for this operation.
Then after the soil rests, you level the ground and this time with a standard plowing tractor, lightly plow. Then with a roller, you press the soil. This process can't cost more than 15,000 to 20,000 dram.
Then cement poles need to be planted and for one hector, 440 pole are needed. These cost us delivered 100 dram each. I know this, as I have been using these same cement poles for fencing poles.
Three levels of wire need to be strung on the pole. About 20,200 meters are needed at 10 dram a meter totaling 202,000 dram.
Then there is a device that pounds holes in the ground (like a jack-hammer) and on one truck, there are 4 of these hammers. In one day, 6 people work and can plant one hector. Cost of labor is 12,000 dram and rent for the truck maybe 10,000 dram (may be a little more, but not much more).
At this point, you have a one-hector vineyard that costs you about $1,500. Mind you this price does not include irrigation, but depending on where they decide to put these vineyards, if they do it right, they will pick a spot where there is already Artesian wells and electricity close by, in that case, it's just a matter of pumping the water and a couple hundred meters of pipe per vineyard, which I would guess were talking anther $500 per vineyard maximum (even this is a high figure).
Now if were talking the real price to be $2,00 per hector, then where does this $5,000 to $6,000 per hector come in? And if you understand the article, it's basically saying we are going to turn to the Diaspora for this money.
One other thing that I can't help but think about is right off the top of my head there are 3 families that don't have the health to work these vineyards themselves, which means they have to hire someone to do this and one thing the expert told me what that if the vineyards are not properly worked, you could get no crop at all.
I would guess that many who receive these vineyards will not wait a minute and turn around and sell them for a fraction of their real value.
As for the Prime Minister's comment of the importance of this program being the same as the stimulating birthrates program, if this program is suppose to have the same effect, then in the end it will do us more harm than good.
Why do I say that about the birthing program? Well you don't pay poor people to have more children in the real world. You give people jobs and economic opportunities so they can afford to have more children that later on will no become a burden to us.
In fact this vineyard program as far as I can see it is just another program that is designed for the people in government to pillage from the Diaspora and use the names of our martyred heroes to motivate the Diaspora to open their pockets up.
I would really like to see their financial figures that reflect $5,000 to $6,000 per hector and when I go to Stepanagert, will request them from the government so I can review them.
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